Re: chkconfig missing? and some rc.conf questions/suggestions

[Jonas Trollvik <jontro@xxxxxxxxx>]

While being a little off topic, is there a good place to find rcng
scripts for well known deamons. I am looking for our version of ftpd
for instance, doesnt seem to be one in our tree.

-Jonas

On 2/9/06, joerg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <joerg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:51:17PM -0500, Bob Bagwill wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 21:39:02 +0100, joerg wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:15:55PM -0500, Bob Bagwill wrote:
> > >> 1) Is there any particular reason DBSD doesn't have a chkconfig script,
> > >> like NetBSD?
> > >
> > > ... which is not installed by default.
> >
> > So it's not useful enough to install?
>
> No idea.
>
> > >> 2) How about having a copy of the relevant /etc/rc.d/foo script in
> > >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/foo/, to keep related code together?
> > >
> > > Why do you keeping the few daemons together with the corresponding rc
> > > script is better than keeping the rc scripts together as reflected by
> > > the directory structure?
> >
> > For the same reason that man pages are kept in the same directory as
> > the source?
>
> Well, documentation and code makes sense. But keep in mind that e.g.
> kernel documentation is not scattered over src/sys. For the rc scripts
> it makes a lot more sense to have them in one place, since they interact
> with each other. I don't want to have to look over src/sbin/, libexec/ usr.sbin/
> and where else just to find out which place I need to tweak to achieve a
> certain order.
>
> > > Also keep in mind that not every rc script has a corresponding daemon.
> >
> > Does every deamon have an rc script?  Is there any way of telling, besides
> > comparing /etc/rc.d/* to /usr/sbin/* ?  Is there a way of enumerating all
> > the daemons on the system (including ones from pkgsrc)?
>
> No such way. How should there? Also the stand-alone operation might not
> be the prefered modus operandi, e.g. ftpd makes sense from inetd as
> well.
>
> > >> 3) Would it be possible to establish some conventions so that rc.conf(5)
> > >> could be generated automatically?
> > >
> > > What kind of convention prevents you from that?
> > > ...
> > > Many parts of rc.conf are similiar enough so that shouldn't be such a
> > > big deal.
> >
> > Off hand, I don't see any easy way to extract tweakable variables from
> > the source or rc.d/* files.
>
> Depends on what you want. The activation flag is shown by $rc rcvar, but
> the various configuration options for some scripts are certainly not
> printed, if they exist. Typical examples are ${name}_flags, but other
> much wilder example exists (e.g. consider netif).
>
> That's also the reason why just masking them as options or so doesn't
> make much sense, since the results of changes are too different to work
> without specific handling anyway. Once you need the specific
> case-by-case handling, the marking doesn't make much sense either.
>
> Joerg
>