DragonFly kernel List (threaded) for 2004-01
Re: The Trolling on the freebsd- lists
Bosko Milekic wrote:
Before you go on and spread FUD, can you define the "direction" you
think FreeBSD has headed into with 5.x and tell me why you think it is
wrong (after having defined it)? In my eyes, the end "direction" of
both projects (5.x and DragonFly) is more alike than not and while the
implementation is significantly different, that should not be a valid
basis for the argument that the direction itself is wrong. You might
True, but if you build a car with square tires, don't expect it to work.
be compelled to argue that it goes beyond implementation but then you
ought to step back and ask yourself what each project aims to
accomplish, exactly, in terms of the end-user, and I ask that you tell
me how then the goals are so "drastically" different.
Yet the goals are indeed different. DragonFly is about trying new stuff
that would never make it into FreeBSD (VFS layer, Lightweight Kernel
Threading, Message passing API, etc). FreeBSD is much more conservative
in a lot of areas than DragonFly is. Also Bill Huei has made a good
point about the ownership of kernel areas in FreeBSD, stuff others are
not supposed to touch.
As for the differences in implementation, I first challenge you to
show me (and other readers) your contribution post back in the early
stages of 5.x design, since you claim that the FreeBSD community has
not listened to "sysadmins and end users" (which I assume for the
moment you are).
And you, my friend, have just made a gratuitous assumption about the
matter, which, in this day and age, is completely irrelevant. FreeBSD
made a choise about its SMP design, whether it was right or wrong, time
I plan to benchmark both DragonFly and FreeBSD and will publish the
results, even though after the recent trolling we've seen it might be a
bit touchy subject.
Also note that discussing FreeBSD's merits in this list is off-topic.
The last time DragonFly was discussed in the freebsd-hackers@ mailing
list, Kip and other people got flamed by Poul-Henning and friends.
Miguel Mendez <flynn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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