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Re: Anybody working on removing sendmail from base?

From: Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:21:52 -0500

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:27:59 -0700, Timothy Cava wrote:

> (Let's not bikeshed.)
> Anybody working on this in their repository? I'm willing to try, myself,
> but I'd like to know whether Matt would accept it, and what's really
> necessary. I suppose I could check the mailing lists, but I had trouble
> finding useful information last time. It was mostly flamage. I'm
> basically just a user/sysadmin/c programmer, not a FreeBSD/DragonFlyBSD
> internals expert, so...

I am not sure if the newsgroups still hold the older stuff, there have a
very good thread that I created about remove Sendmail, Perl, BIND and etc.
So far from that thread, it looks like we will move things out of
system and have them as package.

> Needed:
> 	* /etc/rc.mail, or an equivalent
> 	* /etc/rc.conf glue
> 		Or is sendmail_enable=NO mta_start_script="..."
> 		already good enough?
> 	* /etc/defaults/rc.conf defaults
> 		Do we break clean and provide a small mailer for
> 		localnet mail? Or just default to sendmail,
> 		which kind of defeats the purpose, but there is
> 		POLA. I suppose we could have NO_SENDMAIL
> 		mean more, like don't use it for defaults (we
> 		don't have the binaries, whatever)
> 	* Other things:
> 		make release? I don't know the build system in
> 		detail.
> 		What else? I must be missing things, otherwise
> 		I feel like this would have been done by -somebody-
> 		out there.
	* periodic
		Change from mail to log.
	* Just my wish: :-)
		It will be very cool if anyone write a nice app
		looks almost like mutt or so that will read the
		logs. Ex: List in the left and select 'security',
		then will display today first. Also, can check the
		different date of log.

		I personal hate to put log in the mail or have
		system depends on mail for the different things.

I hope, I am not missing something else, because I always get rid of
sendmail and switch mail to log at the near every BSD that I have


> P.S. I use qmail but I'd want to make this work for any mailer,
>       I am in no way carrying a torch. I just think there are a lot of
>       people out there who want this.
> -Timothy

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