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Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys errno.h

From: "Simon 'corecode' Schubert" <corecode@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:29:03 +0200

On 03.07.2005, at 19:52, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
Maybe in some future packaging/ports system where we can trivially
edit vendor supplied sources we can put it back. But that time is
not now. As I said, we can't afford to spend man months messing around
with it, we have to move on.
It needs less than one man week to fix everything in ports/pkgsrc, not
included the build time. So we have now reached the stage where correctness
is less important than compatibility with broken programs?


I'm tired of this discussion. I won't comment the next time we have to change
something to conform to a standard which breaks existing software, I also won't
comment when we can't change something because existing software depends on
broken implementations.

Please continue to point out mistakes and possible solutions. This is needed and wanted. But it's about our code; this time our code didn't becode less standards conformant. We just became more liberal.

But keep in mind that software doesn't change when
noone steps up to point out the problems and fix them.

True. But why do our users and developers need to do this? We're a small group, so labour is precious.

When it's easier to
add bandaids, which have to stay forever, than to fix the underlaying problem,
something is wrong. When it is to complain, instead of investing the same time
to fix a problem, something is wrong. We choose to change our uname and to
stop pretending to be FreeBSD for a reason and that created problems. The situation
is not different at all from what we have know. Is the next step to revert that

We still pretend that we're FreeBSD in dfports, if I'm not mistaken. And I don't consider it as a bandaid, as ISO C99 explicitly mentions this as a possible implementation (which happens to reduce breakage with 3rd party programs).


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